Help with first CO2 setup
#1
The interest from many folks in the forum is apparent so I'm opening a thread for those of us who are trying to get our first setup going on. 

I have a few initial questions: 

- What does a refill actually mean in this experiment? Does it always involve trading the CO2 canister for a new one at the CO2 supplier? 
- Could I potentially get started with trying consumer brands like Sodastream? Attach an adapter and experiment with the content of one of these before I move on to the more complex setups with big canister?
- Similar to the second question, would it be worthy starting with a small paintball canister from, say, Dick's Sporting Goods? http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/produc...-tanks.jsp
#2
The important thing is to have a proper co2 tank, marked as such. If its not new the valv3 apparatus must be proved and certified. I just got a new 20lbs tank, takes them 2 minutes to fill the whole thing.
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#3
(02-20-2017, 06:45 AM)ChasingGoodandEvil Wrote: The important thing is to have a proper co2 tank, marked as such. If its not new the valv3 apparatus must be proved and certified. I just got a new 20lbs tank, takes them 2 minutes to fill the whole thing.

The one you bought, do they refill it with more CO2 or do they trade it for a new one? There seem to be two methods.
#4
(02-20-2017, 09:26 PM)tastyfood Wrote:
(02-20-2017, 06:45 AM)ChasingGoodandEvil Wrote: The important thing is to have a proper co2 tank, marked as such. If its not new the valv3 apparatus must be proved and certified. I just got a new 20lbs tank, takes them 2 minutes to fill the whole thing.

The one you bought, do they refill it with more CO2 or do they trade it for a new one? There seem to be two methods.

The one i bought they refill. I use a fire extinguisher recharge place.
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#5
Can a regulator like this be attached to a Sodastream or paintball CO2 tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Up-Aqua-Simple-C...1206359875
#6
(02-21-2017, 12:44 AM)tastyfood Wrote: Can a regulator like this be attached to a Sodastream or paintball CO2 tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Up-Aqua-Simple-C...1206359875

I think Sodastream has a non-standard cap. All the other tanks I've tried fit the regulators like the one you link to.
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#7
(02-21-2017, 03:07 AM)VoS Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 12:44 AM)tastyfood Wrote: Can a regulator like this be attached to a Sodastream or paintball CO2 tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Up-Aqua-Simple-C...1206359875

I think Sodastream has a non-standard cap. All the other tanks I've tried fit the regulators like the one you link to.

Including the paintball co2 tanks from Dick's sporting goods and such? 

Is the regulator what lets the CO2 flow through the tube? 

Sorry for the noob questions, I've never tinkered with an air gas before.
#8
(02-21-2017, 03:43 AM)tastyfood Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 03:07 AM)VoS Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 12:44 AM)tastyfood Wrote: Can a regulator like this be attached to a Sodastream or paintball CO2 tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Up-Aqua-Simple-C...1206359875

I think Sodastream has a non-standard cap. All the other tanks I've tried fit the regulators like the one you link to.

Including the paintball co2 tanks from Dick's sporting goods and such? 

Is the regulator what lets the CO2 flow through the tube? 

Sorry for the noob questions, I've never tinkered with an air gas before.

Yes, I've tried a paintball tank from Dick's and it had a standard cap that worked with the aquarium regulator. There may be an adapter that's needed, depending on the size of the cap, which looks like this.
[Image: 51d%2BVaRloOL.jpg] 

The regulator just slows the stream of CO2 to a tiny trickle of bubbles. It's designed to be used in an aquarium that needs a steady supply of CO2 for its own balance. But it works for this purpose, well enough and cheaply.
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#9
(02-21-2017, 04:05 PM)VoS Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 03:43 AM)tastyfood Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 03:07 AM)VoS Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 12:44 AM)tastyfood Wrote: Can a regulator like this be attached to a Sodastream or paintball CO2 tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Up-Aqua-Simple-C...1206359875

I think Sodastream has a non-standard cap. All the other tanks I've tried fit the regulators like the one you link to.

Including the paintball co2 tanks from Dick's sporting goods and such? 

Is the regulator what lets the CO2 flow through the tube? 

Sorry for the noob questions, I've never tinkered with an air gas before.

Yes, I've tried a paintball tank from Dick's and it had a standard cap that worked with the aquarium regulator. There may be an adapter that's needed, depending on the size of the cap, which looks like this.
[Image: 51d%2BVaRloOL.jpg] 

The regulator just slows the stream of CO2 to a tiny trickle of bubbles. It's designed to be used in an aquarium that needs a steady supply of CO2 for its own balance. But it works for this purpose, well enough and cheaply.

Thanks for all the tips! If my first experiment is successful I wanted to try buying a tank from Amazon for convenience. 

Would this one work?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ICO58CG/ref...LJNAXEBL4T
#10
(02-24-2017, 06:06 AM)tastyfood Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 04:05 PM)VoS Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 03:43 AM)tastyfood Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 03:07 AM)VoS Wrote:
(02-21-2017, 12:44 AM)tastyfood Wrote: Can a regulator like this be attached to a Sodastream or paintball CO2 tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Up-Aqua-Simple-C...1206359875

I think Sodastream has a non-standard cap. All the other tanks I've tried fit the regulators like the one you link to.

Including the paintball co2 tanks from Dick's sporting goods and such? 

Is the regulator what lets the CO2 flow through the tube? 

Sorry for the noob questions, I've never tinkered with an air gas before.

Yes, I've tried a paintball tank from Dick's and it had a standard cap that worked with the aquarium regulator. There may be an adapter that's needed, depending on the size of the cap, which looks like this.
[Image: 51d%2BVaRloOL.jpg] 

The regulator just slows the stream of CO2 to a tiny trickle of bubbles. It's designed to be used in an aquarium that needs a steady supply of CO2 for its own balance. But it works for this purpose, well enough and cheaply.

Thanks for all the tips! If my first experiment is successful I wanted to try buying a tank from Amazon for convenience. 

Would this one work?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ICO58CG/ref...LJNAXEBL4T

Yes, that tank has the standard CGA 320 CO2 valve, so it will fit the standard CO2 regulators.
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