(01-05-2017, 06:10 PM)ChasingGoodandEvil Wrote:(01-05-2017, 06:07 PM)VoS Wrote:(01-05-2017, 04:50 PM)James_001 Wrote:(01-05-2017, 12:42 PM)VoS Wrote:(01-03-2017, 10:43 AM)James_001 Wrote: Im desperate to sleep.I use high dose urea therapy for sleeping. For me, I take about 15 grams of urea dissolved in a few ounces of syrup and soda or juice. If I do wake up after about three or four hours of sleep, as I often do, I take another 15 grams of urea.
I wake up every night around four am and have trouble falling back asleep.
This all started with a traumatic incident years ago.
I've tried everything and nothing has helped for many years. I'm on twenty five mcg of cynomel a day in addition to the standard ray peat foods. My pulse and temps are good a lot of the time, yet I still can't sleep.
I'm going to try ketamine as I read it can help overcome trauma stored in the body.
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What do you think?
I think if I were having trouble sleeping ever after taking the first dose, then I would take 15 grams of urea a second time. Typically, in clinics, urea is administered in two doses of 15 grams each.
I think the inability to sleep results from an excess of stress-induced anti-diuretic hormones. The excess of the stress-induced hormones then leads to an imbalance of sodium and other osmolytes, which is called "euvolemic hyponatremia" This means there is normal fluid volume (euvolemic) but too little sodium and other osmolytes in the fluid (hyponatremia).
Ray Peat often recommends sugar and salt to help with sleep. This may be helpful, too. Sugar and salt are also known to help with an excess of anti-diuretic hormones.
But high dose urea therapy is known to be more effective and safer than sugar or salt to protect against an excess of stress-induced anti-diuretic hormones.
I have not used ketamine. It may be unnecessary if the high dose urea therapy works.
Where do you get urea from?
I defiantly have high stress hormones, I feel my adrenaline all day long.
I look for USP grade Urea. There are some here:
Just to reiterate VOS, you say commercial grade urea is ok so long as it's 99+% pure? The urea i hve comes in tiny spheres, i'm not sure what import that has on its purity.
USP Grade is certified to be 99.8% pure, while commercial grade is 99+%. I think they are both safe. I use USP grade, since the price is not much more.
The impurities mostly come from unconsummated reactants such as ammonia, ammonium carbamate, carbon dioxide and the water used.
Yes, urea is made in granules that look like spheres. The granules can be crushed into powder if needed.
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